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	<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/</link>
	<description>The ExperienceOn Ventures teamblog about technology and entrepreneurship in a Web 3.0 context</description>
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		<title>By: Hollie Bass</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-18</link>
		<author>Hollie Bass</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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		<title>By: Kara Rollins</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-17</link>
		<author>Kara Rollins</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-17</guid>
		<description>hi
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		<title>By: Nodalities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carlos González-Cadenas Talks with Talis about ExperienceOn Ventures and transforming travel</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-15</link>
		<author>Nodalities &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carlos González-Cadenas Talks with Talis about ExperienceOn Ventures and transforming travel</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-15</guid>
		<description>[...] has written about his particular take on &#8216;Web 3.0&#8242;, and we explore his perspective further during the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-14</link>
		<author>Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-14</guid>
		<description>This content has been Agglom (erated) with other similar ones on http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82 - Web 3.0 - meaningless or future - What do you think about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This content has been Agglom (erated) with other similar ones on <a href="http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82" rel="nofollow">http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82</a> - Web 3.0 - meaningless or future - What do you think about?</p>
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		<title>By: Tologix</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-13</link>
		<author>Tologix</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-13</guid>
		<description>This is an excellent thread that helps put web3.0 in perspective.  Specifically, you mentioned "we believe that the proliferation of structured data is very important, but we also believe that it’s most important what you do with this data" - and that is where the opportunities lies.

No matter how many 'artificial intelligence'  approaches occur to help structure data, that data isnt very important (in fact, in some cases, devalued) unless it can be accessed in a controlled manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent thread that helps put web3.0 in perspective.  Specifically, you mentioned &#8220;we believe that the proliferation of structured data is very important, but we also believe that it’s most important what you do with this data&#8221; - and that is where the opportunities lies.</p>
<p>No matter how many &#8216;artificial intelligence&#8217;  approaches occur to help structure data, that data isnt very important (in fact, in some cases, devalued) unless it can be accessed in a controlled manner.</p>
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		<title>By: sameer</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-8</link>
		<author>sameer</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-8</guid>
		<description>Links: 
http://sramanamitra.com/blog/1165
http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572          http://sramanamitra.com/blog/775
http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links:<br />
<a href="http://sramanamitra.com/blog/1165" rel="nofollow">http://sramanamitra.com/blog/1165</a><br />
<a href="http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572" rel="nofollow">http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572</a>          <a href="http://sramanamitra.com/blog/775" rel="nofollow">http://sramanamitra.com/blog/775</a><br />
<a href="http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572" rel="nofollow">http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572</a></p>
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		<title>By: sameer</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-7</link>
		<author>sameer</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-7</guid>
		<description>Silicon Valley Entrepreneur &#38; Strategy Consultant Sramana Mitra, after receiving reactions and feedback on her definition of Web 3.0, writes a follow-on synthesis explaining why the Semantic Web can only be implemented in a Contextual Domain. Thus, Web 3.0 according to her, is a  Verticalized, Contextualized, Personalized Web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silicon Valley Entrepreneur &amp; Strategy Consultant Sramana Mitra, after receiving reactions and feedback on her definition of Web 3.0, writes a follow-on synthesis explaining why the Semantic Web can only be implemented in a Contextual Domain. Thus, Web 3.0 according to her, is a  Verticalized, Contextualized, Personalized Web.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-6</link>
		<author>Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-6</guid>
		<description>Roger,

Thank you very much for visiting the blog.

Of course, BeFogg.com will be the first "vertical service" where we apply the principles we outline here in this blog.

Best regards,

Carlos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for visiting the blog.</p>
<p>Of course, BeFogg.com will be the first &#8220;vertical service&#8221; where we apply the principles we outline here in this blog.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Carlos</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-5</link>
		<author>Roger</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-5</guid>
		<description>Cool blog! and beFogg a great idea!

Offer any product/service to experienced travelers is so hard ... because there are information but dispersed, isolated and no related... the Web3.0 techniques have to help us.
I think that beFogg is the best place for applying Web 3.0 principles, no?  :)
	
I invite you pisco sour.. come on!

-roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool blog! and beFogg a great idea!</p>
<p>Offer any product/service to experienced travelers is so hard &#8230; because there are information but dispersed, isolated and no related&#8230; the Web3.0 techniques have to help us.<br />
I think that beFogg is the best place for applying Web 3.0 principles, no?  <img src='http://blog.experienceon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I invite you pisco sour.. come on!</p>
<p>-roger</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas</title>
		<link>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-4</link>
		<author>Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.experienceon.com/2007/07/24/about-web-30/#comment-4</guid>
		<description>Hi Danny,

Thank you very much for your comment. :). We've just opened our blog, and we're very happy to start receiving feedback.

Here goes some feedback.

"Pretty much everyone that uses a computer already *does* generate and maintain machine-processable data - after all, that’s all computers know. There’s material like enterprise databases, personal address and appointment books, music catalogues, project management material, etc etc. Even things which are content-oriented like blog posts and emails have a lot of data associated with them."

Totally agree. When I said "generate" machine-processable data, I was thinking in the "generation" of structured formats in the process of an information exchange (i.e. people opening and publishing their internal databases). Sorry for not making this more clear (maybe I should have said "publishing" instead of "generating").

The problem is that, when we're speaking about the vast majority of the people in the Web, the motivations for publishing their meta-data in the Web are not very clear.  

For end-users, doing it explicitly is not very attractive (at the end, it's more work). In this case, the best strategy is to let our software do the job for us (i.e. a blog software generating hCard with our contact data or a social network generating FOAF with our contact list), but this is no great deal (you can mine this information now with a good accuracy).

For companies, new business models have to be defined in order to open and publish databases, specially when we're speaking about making information freely available. We can think about Reuters or TeleAtlas, among others, that have been providing high quality meta-data for years (in exchange of a considerable sum), but I'm sure that's not the "Semantic Web" you're envisioning (Reuters and TeleAtlas operate in somewhat "closed" environments). We've got a long way to go here.

Governments are not constrained in the same way as companies, and many times provide publicly-available meta-data (i.e. geographical info provided by the US Government). 

Summarizing, it's not a problem of existence of structured data (as you point, it does exist) or technical feasibility of publishing it (it's straightforward), it's a problem of finding motivations for doing it (why?), and finding the appropriate scenario (market, business model, ...) for doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your comment. :). We&#8217;ve just opened our blog, and we&#8217;re very happy to start receiving feedback.</p>
<p>Here goes some feedback.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pretty much everyone that uses a computer already *does* generate and maintain machine-processable data - after all, that’s all computers know. There’s material like enterprise databases, personal address and appointment books, music catalogues, project management material, etc etc. Even things which are content-oriented like blog posts and emails have a lot of data associated with them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Totally agree. When I said &#8220;generate&#8221; machine-processable data, I was thinking in the &#8220;generation&#8221; of structured formats in the process of an information exchange (i.e. people opening and publishing their internal databases). Sorry for not making this more clear (maybe I should have said &#8220;publishing&#8221; instead of &#8220;generating&#8221;).</p>
<p>The problem is that, when we&#8217;re speaking about the vast majority of the people in the Web, the motivations for publishing their meta-data in the Web are not very clear.  </p>
<p>For end-users, doing it explicitly is not very attractive (at the end, it&#8217;s more work). In this case, the best strategy is to let our software do the job for us (i.e. a blog software generating hCard with our contact data or a social network generating FOAF with our contact list), but this is no great deal (you can mine this information now with a good accuracy).</p>
<p>For companies, new business models have to be defined in order to open and publish databases, specially when we&#8217;re speaking about making information freely available. We can think about Reuters or TeleAtlas, among others, that have been providing high quality meta-data for years (in exchange of a considerable sum), but I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s not the &#8220;Semantic Web&#8221; you&#8217;re envisioning (Reuters and TeleAtlas operate in somewhat &#8220;closed&#8221; environments). We&#8217;ve got a long way to go here.</p>
<p>Governments are not constrained in the same way as companies, and many times provide publicly-available meta-data (i.e. geographical info provided by the US Government). </p>
<p>Summarizing, it&#8217;s not a problem of existence of structured data (as you point, it does exist) or technical feasibility of publishing it (it&#8217;s straightforward), it&#8217;s a problem of finding motivations for doing it (why?), and finding the appropriate scenario (market, business model, &#8230;) for doing it.</p>
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